Jay talks with Stein Ringen, a professor emeritus at Oxford University. Ringen is the author of The Perfect Dictatorship: China in the 21st Century. The two talk about Xi, Trump, Norway, John Kelly, and other subjects. One question is this: Is it really true that political liberalization follows economic liberalization, as night follows day? Is it a law? China seems in defiance of that “law.” Discuss this episode at Ricochet.
Pictured: Chinese President Xi Jinping. (Jason Lee/Reuters)